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Carib-Sea Eco-complete? And gravel amount calculations
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Rotem
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)10:43    Post subject: Carib-Sea Eco-complete? And gravel amount calculations Reply with quote

Has anyone tried this product as an alternative to Flourite?

How many pounds of gravel do you need for a 37g tank? The substrate has to be deep enough for live plants. It's bottom is 30" x 12" .
That makes it 360 sq. inches.

What's the formula for this?
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Raul-7
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)11:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I haven't tried this product..but I can tell you that you will need 2" of substrate! This will be sufficient enough to grow all types of plants...I hope everything goes well for you! Smile


Arrow Can I have a link to this product?
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Rotem
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)13:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guessed that 2" is enough (about what I have in my other tank). But I don't know how much in pounds I need to cover a certain amount of area with 2" of gravel.

I can't access the link, because I'm on my linux machine and it's giving me hell.....but it's on www.carib-sea.com under new products.

I also saw an ad for it in an Aquariium magazine.

Big-als also sells it.
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William
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)14:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rotem,

I haven't used this specific product but a rule of thumb I use for gravel is 1 pound per gallon. Your mileage may vary Wink

Best regards,

William


Rotem wrote:
I guessed that 2" is enough (about what I have in my other tank). But I don't know how much in pounds I need to cover a certain amount of area with 2" of gravel.

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Steve Hampton
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)15:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seachem recommends 1 kg per 62 cubic inches, and the Eco-Complete should follow the same formula. I have just added 1-20 lb. bag to a 10G new setup so I haven't any personal experience yet. Here is the complete formula:

30 x 12 x (Depth of substrate) 3 = 1080 cubic inches needed

1 bag is 9 kg, so 1 bag is equal to 558 cubic inches

soooo

30 x 12 x 3 = 1080/558 = 2

You will need 2 bags to have a 3 inch deep substrate in your tank. If you were using Flourite you would divide by 434 (Flourite is 7 kg bags)

Here's the Eco-Complete


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Rotem
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)15:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Steve, you gave the info I was looking for as always.

A note to William, The rule of tumb of 1lb per gallon, does not make any sense. Gravel/substrate should be calculated by surface are and not volume.

According to your rule a 30g breeder would need 30lb of substrate and a 65 would need 65lb....guess what, they both have the same surface area 36x18. Which means that you'll have more than double the depth of gravel in the 65g.
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2la
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)18:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember that Eco-Complete is packed with a signficant amount of water, so you'll need more packages than you think. It took two bags to fill my 15G-long (2 square feet) to a depth of about 2".

Steve, your computer's acting weird...seems to be replacing (I think) "square inch" with "see you. in". Or is this some type of terminology I've never seen before?
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve was trying to write Cubic Inch, using the letters. The problem is caused by the new auto spell checker on the board that corrects people using chat slang. It did it to me earlier when I wrote United States (the letters) gallons it wrote You.S gallons! Laughing
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Rotem
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)19:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks 2la. So I guess I'm ordering 3 bags.
So, have you had it for long? Do you think it's a good substitute to Flourite?
Does the water that comes with it, taint the tank water?
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Steve Hampton
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PostPosted: 2003.09.16(Tue)19:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rotem wrote:
Thanks 2la. So I guess I'm ordering 3 bags.
So, have you had it for long? Do you think it's a good substitute to Flourite?
Does the water that comes with it, taint the tank water?


Having just added the Eco-Complete it is very unique. I slit open the bag, poured the contents into the tank and filled with water...no rinsing, it's completely ready to use.

Here's my tank, this photo was taken within 30 minutes of the tank being filled, note it's almost crystal clear.


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