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Joined: 29 May 2003
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

PostPosted: 2003.08.26(Tue)11:39    Post subject: planned 55 Reply with quote

I'm currently planning a standard 55gal tank. I'm asking for commentary and opinions on my stocking plans

1 Perfecto tank
2 Aquaclear 200s (each rated for 40gal, 200gph) used with sponges in media baskets and possibly larger mechanical filter material if it fits.
2 Ebo Jager 100 watt heaters (each rated for 20-30gal, one on each end of tank to prevent hot spots)
2 Standard 24" hoods with standard lighting (2 bulbs,15-20watts each bulb) Tank will be planted only with java moss, java fern, possibly a type of floating plant as well, plus plastic/silk plants.

Tank will house: school of congo tetras, african butterfly cichlid pair, male paradise fish, 4 or more corydoras. Possibly 2 SAEs, small pleco, trio of livebearers (platy or swords) pearl gourami, or other options. As you can see, its a community of nice but larger, possibly pushy fish. The fish I want for certain are certainly all showcase fish, so I don't need any more flash. Would a school of rummynose tetras be OK? Concerns about aggression? Any other suggestions?

Water is high pH (higher than 8, I think) gh and KH around 15, driftwood, mystery lfs rock and slate as decorations.

Thanks bunches,
CW
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PostPosted: 2003.08.26(Tue)14:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

lower your pH to 7, as congo tetras, pearl gouramis, paradise fish, corydoras an sae's live in slighty acidic water to neutral water
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PostPosted: 2003.08.26(Tue)15:02    Post subject: f Reply with quote

try zebra danios or leapord danios. They are really active and fast, they stay at the top of the tank witch most fish don't do. They arent really eye popping like say neon tetras, zebras have you guessed it, black stripes and can you guess what the leapords have? spots. they come in long finned and short finned just in case you have fin bitters you can get the short finned. They stay small, less that 2 inches. maybe you could have some african dwarf frogs at the bottom, they are cute and eat any food that falls to the bottom, but you have to make sure they get fed because they won't come to the top and eat.

Oh, if you get mollies or platties, the gourami and stuff might eat the fry.
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PostPosted: 2003.08.26(Tue)19:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not interested in messing with my pH as this can be hard to do correctly. These fish are already living in a similar pH in my lfs tanks, so I know they will be fine. NO fish besides rift lake cichlids naturally live in my kind of water, but they all do in the aquarium setting. I'm using driftwood, and possibly peat, but with as high a KH as I have, I don't expect it to come down much.

Thanks for your suggestions! I'm counting on all the fish eating the livebearer fry. Yum! Can't buy any live food better than that!
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PostPosted: 2003.08.27(Wed)4:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reverse osmosis water may lower the KH which will allow you to lower the pH. Don't use pH chemicals, they do bad things to fish, while peat and driftwood can slightly lower pH.

Before you do buy the fish get the LFS to do a pH test on their water just to be sure, and don't acclimatise the fish if the pH is different as adding water to the plastic bags could trigger a pH spike and hurt your fish. My LFS says its not as required to pour water into the bag and let it float, it doesn't acclimate the fish too much.
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PostPosted: 2003.08.27(Wed)10:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

My lfs is about 5 blocks away from me, and my whole town has around 8 or higher pH, so I know the LFS has the same pH. Like I said, I'm not going to mess with my pH, and unfortunately, RO will be too expensive for me in the long run.

I read the thread about dumping fish and found it very interesting. Just 3 days ago, I floated some pygmy cories just for about 10 min so that the water tempertature would equalize, then dumped them with no acclimation period. They're doing great! If I keep using this method and it keeps working, I will be recommending it.

Does anyone have any more comments about my fish selection overall, if not my water chemistry?
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PostPosted: 2003.08.28(Thu)4:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the "dumping" method, remember not to add the store water to your aquarium water, because it is more polluted than normal on most occasions.
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PostPosted: 2003.08.28(Thu)8:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes indeed, "netted" the fish by hand. I'm up on all this new fangled junk:)

I was willing to try the dump method, but I especially wanted to b/c: these fish had been in their bags for 4 hours during a drive home from TFP and I didn't want them in that water any longer than they had to be. So I don't even know if the pH was similar at all between TFP and my tank, so all I could hope for was getting the temperature settled. It worked well!
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