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Avrumeleh
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PostPosted: 2003.08.21(Thu)20:09    Post subject: Filtration for a fish only 120 gallon tank Reply with quote

I'm planning on setting up a 120 gallon tank for fish using live rock - about 150 pounds or so...but also some other...wet/dry.... filtration. Can anyone recommend a specific wet/dry filter? So far, I've been told to go with an Amiracle 400....any other ideas? THANKS!!
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PostPosted: 2004.02.22(Sun)21:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! I live in Westchester County NY as well, and I am also Looking to set up a 120g FO salt tank...And the coincedences continue! I was also wondering about the wet/dry filters, I talked to a shop owner, and he seems to depend on them, and then I read up some stuff online and it says they are useless. Any Help with this delema would be great, thanks.
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PostPosted: 2004.02.22(Sun)22:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that is a coincidence!....I've been looking into this for a good while and I think that there are so many opinions on this, that I had to come up with a decision one way or another. I finally decided to get myself an Oceanic wet/dry but I'm not going to use any bio-medium like bio-balls in there. I think I'll use some live rock and also some kind of macro-algae like a refugium. There's so many different theories out there that it makes you feel like you'll never arrive at an educated decision and maybe that's just the thing...there are many ways to do this. One thing I kind of concluded is that when it comes to a wet/dry, they are worth using if you're going to do fish only. The might raise the nitrates a bit in a tank and that has to be avoided IF you do a reef. I think that reefs are so popular nowadays that when you ask someone about a wet/dry and they tell you not to bother with it, it's because they're reef oriented and they're not considering filtration wouldn't hurt in a fish only tank and the fish can take the kind of nitrates a wet/dry might produce with little difficulty. I just might put bio-balls in the wet/dry I'm getting, but I'm going to kind of feel it out...I'll see.

Did you consider skimmers yet? That's something that I think there's no confusion about. I got an Aqua C after considering a Euro-Reef and Precision Marine but I think you can't go wrong with any of those or some others too. I had to make some decisions even though I was taking my sweet time because the tank's finally going to be delivered (I hope) next Monday and I want to get it going at least, though I intend to be VERY patient in setting it up properly. I'm in no rush....I have a planted tank and fancy goldfish and they keep me busy. Which fish stores do you frequent in Westchester? I don't think there are many good ones here, in fact most of them aren't very good at all for some reason and I found a couple that are excellent that aren't too far away from Westchester. Nice to hear from you on this....Alan
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PostPosted: 2004.02.22(Sun)22:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way...I didn't get the Amiracle after all because the sump area is rather amall and didn't have the room I wanted for the skimmer and the pumps for it and the wet/dry, etc.
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PostPosted: 2004.02.23(Mon)14:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just driving down in elmsford yesterday and I saw a shop that just opened, salt only! The guys there seemed pretty knowledgable, I can't remember the name right now though. And another Salt specialist that I have been to, but don't like that much, is there is one in Mt. Kisco, very small and a bit difficult to find, but rediculously overpriced.

I was thinking about getting the amiricle because thats what the guys at the store reccomended, but I definitly want to have my skimmer in a sump, so if you say they are too small, I may switch to something else. I was also looking at getting the AquaC or I was looking at some of the Berlin and CPR models.

-Wormo

P.S. Where are you getting your tank from, cause right now I am working on pricing these tanks out.
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PostPosted: 2004.02.23(Mon)15:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. Where are you getting your tank from, cause right now I am working on pricing these tanks out.


I ordered my tank from a guy that's fairly local...He's in Brewster.....the place is called Country Aquarium and the guy's name is Mike...He's a nice guy and I don't know exactly how competetive the price is....I ordered an Oceanic and I only got a price from one other place and his price was a little bit better. Mine was a custom order cause they only make the white oak on special order now and I wanted it to match the other tanks in the room here. If you call him or stop by, tell him Alan (the guy that he got the 120 Oceanic for) sent you.

I think he's going to deliver my tank on Mondays (his store's closed on Mondays, which is his servicing day.) He's going to deliver, move my goldfish tank over to the other side of the room and set up the marine tank and all the equipment for me where the goldfish tank is. I never had anyone do that for me on any of my other tanks, but I never had a wet/dry before and I want to watch what he does so I understand everything correctly.

I know the place in Mt. Kisco. I don't care for it much...they are overpriced and they don't have very much selection and also, I know a guy that has them do all the servicing on the tank and I saw it and they do a lousy job....really lousy. He know nothing about fish himself and I don't think they sold him adequate equipment. Anyway, if you want to see an incredible selection of saltwater fish, go to the House of Fins in Greenwich, Connecticut. It's on Arch Street. The place is kind of high with it's prices but you won't see a selection anything like theirs, anywhere. I go there for the fresh water fish and plants and it's a great place to take a look at.

Yeah, the Amiracle is the biggest selling wet/dry but I just found the sump to be way too small. CPR's are good but their 3000 model which is what I would think I'd need was just too big in dimension. That's why I wound up ordering the Oceanic...it just had everything right sizewise.

Let me know how you do with the prices of the tank....Alan
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PostPosted: 2004.02.23(Mon)16:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is a company, www.glasscages.com, that advertises and sells at large fish and reptile shows across the country, there are two of them near us, One out near Hartford CT, and one in White Plains NY. They are really cheap but they seem to have rough edges and arent soo in tune to making things look great, but they seem to get the job done. Unfortunatly I don't beleive that that have a built in overflow.

I also was looking at the Oceanic sumps, do you know if you can order them without the tank? Cause for that I am either going All-Glass or this other company.
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PostPosted: 2004.02.23(Mon)16:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. I hate all the fish stores I find in Mt. Kisco, from what I know of, there are atleast 2, and those are very overpriced and don't seem to help people out, only help themselves to some more $$$.
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PostPosted: 2004.02.24(Tue)12:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know for a fact that you can order an Oceanic sump without buying an Oceanic tank. I priced the largest one which is their Sump 3 and the price is $195. It really is a nice sump though and if I were going to have a sump only (even though I probably could have since I don't intend to use the bio-balls in the wet/dry to start out, anyway) it's the one that I would have gotten. By the way, it's made of glass and not plastic like almost all of the others, though if a company is called "Allglasscages" I would think they also use glass.
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PostPosted: 2004.02.24(Tue)12:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way...I wanted to let you know that if you're considering Custom Sealife for lighting because I thought theit options were the best, they just went out of business

www.customsealife.com

I alaready bought one of their units and found out a few weeks later that they had gone out of business. I don't think it matters much because the seller will warrant it and I'm just about sure that their bulbs will be available or replaceable with another company's. It might give you a chance to get a real bargain on one of their lighting units now. I got the one with two 65 watt actinics and two 65 watt 10,000's with 4 moon light bulbs inside it.
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