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tropical laura
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PostPosted: 2003.07.10(Thu)11:53    Post subject: pond 'n fish Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

I have a small pond, well a converted sand pit Laughing and was wondering, can I have small goldfish in it? Its 1m by 2m.

Would I have to bring them in at winter time?

Laura
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PostPosted: 2003.07.10(Thu)12:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

How deep is it?

What filtration do you have?

What kind of predators are nearby?
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PostPosted: 2003.07.12(Sat)14:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the depth is a bit worrying...What kind of sand pit is it?Obviously if its too shallow it won't be suitable because the fish won't have freedom of movement and will have big temperature changes. Maybe you should considor scrapping it and using the space to dig out a pond and use a liner.
Have you got a filter for it?Maybe you could drill two holes in the side(assuming your sand pit is the kind I'm thinking of...)and use it for the intake/output.You really can't have a pond without filtration so it is important.
Where do you live?Different countries have different predators that you have to considor with a pond. Herons and cats are the main killers but in the US I think some people have problems with racoons and sometimes snakes. You could try putting a netting over the water to protect the fish, but it doesn't look very nice.
We need to know where you live and how hot and cold it gets in the winter and summer to know if you should bring them in at winter.
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)3:08    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Well, the childs sandpit is 15cm deep but I think you are right, I should not have fish in it. We have a proper pond but I never go near it, it is totally MANKY! It has blacky greeny water, what can I do to sort that out? I am scared something will jump out of it and attack!

That 'sandpit' has had water in for years now and has a perfect mini ecosystem running (no fish though) It has a pair of frogs in, loads of newts, insects (in theire millions) and 4 differant types of plants in. The water is the most clear water I have ever seen in a pond and I sit there for ages watching the animals in there and my cat (who is very fat and lazy has never caught a fish in her life) loves to have a good drink out of it.
I suppose I am proud of the way my 'little pond' is getting on. Smile

Thanks for the help, I have much more to learn about the hobby Laughing


PS There are no preditors around at all as I cover the pond when not viewing it. don't worry about the animals in it though, they have enough space to get in and out. I'm in the Midlands,England by the way.
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)11:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you would probably be able to keep white clouds in there until winter when you can move them inside. I'm in Southend and if your weather in the Midlands is anything like ours you should be having no problems with the water temperature. They should love it in there with all the insects so you shouldnt really have to feed them anything else and when you move them back inside they will be very brightly coloured
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)12:48    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote

Cool! Very Happy

It would be a PERFECT ecosytem if I did that Laughing

Thanks for the help, BTW, what do you feed them when indoors?

Laura
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)13:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual mix of veg, like cucumber, spinach etc with some protein stuff like daphne, baby brine shrimp
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)14:06    Post subject: BTW Reply with quote

BTW, how many could I keep in there? The surface area is 26 by 20(in inches). Also do I need filtration?

Thanks again

Laura
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)14:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow your Mini-Ecosystem sounds brilliant!

What kind of newts are they in there or are they just wild??

BTW where abouts in the midlands do you live?
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PostPosted: 2003.07.20(Sun)15:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

If as you say the water is clear and all the newts and frogs seem happy, I wouldnt have thought that you would need filtration. About 9 to 12 would be OK because they will breed a lot in the outdoors. First before you do anything I would check water chemical qualities(ammonia, nitrate, nitrite) and you might want to check some others.
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