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my first Koi/gold fish pond
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TetraKeeper808
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PostPosted: 2003.03.16(Sun)15:22    Post subject: my first Koi/gold fish pond Reply with quote

OK well I am trying to let my parents allow me to build a koi or goldfish pond first off which is better goldfish or koi because I just read a post that koi leap out of the water. the pond would be about 6feet by 6feet and the depth would be about 3-4feet is that OK? only a few fish....3-4 would be kept I think unless I can hold more. I plan on adding pond plants for cover and it will be a liner pond. what are your thoughts on filters? pumps? do I need a heater? I have done some reading but not enough...lol. Very Happy what else will I need any other items besides the basics...o yeah I live in the northeast and for those who are in britain..if you don't know that is a fluctuating climate cold winters and hot summers. well what do you think? thanks Razz
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PostPosted: 2003.03.16(Sun)17:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that size pond, you should use goldfish.
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PostPosted: 2003.03.17(Mon)20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely agree with noname, goldies are a much better choice. What do you plan to do in winter? Would you bring fishies in, or just crank the heater? How cold is cold for you? Hot? Where I live it goes from +35C to -45C yearly, and day to day the temp. change can be over 15 degrees! Shocked Anyway, back to swimming friends. If you keep them outside, it would be advisable to buy a heater for spring / fall. The depth, if 4 ft, will be nice and allow less fluctuation and won't bake the fish. Confused But, you may need to invest on a cooling system if your temperatures are high enough.
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PostPosted: 2003.03.18(Tue)9:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

planting lots of lilies and lotus and such will also help provide shade, which is important. I agree that goldfish are best here: koi are really massive and have too much waste. They need HUGE ponds.
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PostPosted: 2003.03.18(Tue)18:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would reccomend against getting a heater for an outdoor pond. It is outside, and the fish will be fine in the water because they adapt as the seasons go on. When the water stays below 50 degrees F. The fish will stop eating and begin hibernating. They can survive like this as long as the pond is deeper than 2-3 feet. That way it will never freeze all of the way through. If it is an indoor pond and your home is heated than it is not nesscessary to buy a heater because the heat from your house will keep it warm enough for your fish to survive. They come from from a climate similar to that of the North Eastern United States so as long as the fish can feel the cold the coming than they will be able to survive even the harshest of winters.
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PostPosted: 2003.03.19(Wed)14:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I agree.
last summer I kept 9 koi and about 15 small feeder goldfish in a 150 gallon pond with only a submersable pump and filter and had no problems at al. mind you they were only at the most 4 inches. That was just my expierience but this summer I'm putting them in my larger 2500 gallon pond
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PostPosted: 2003.03.22(Sat)14:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the temp in the summer can get past 100F sometimes and in winter 20F below. I would have a current going if they were left out in the winter and a heater might be a good idea. yeah I came to the conclusion that my pond when done would be about 144 gallons so goldfish would be good.
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PostPosted: 2003.03.23(Sun)22:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

TetraKeeper808 wrote:
I would have a current going if they were left out in the winter and a heater might be a good idea.


If you have a current going you do not need a heater! I have a pond outside and it got to zero degrees this winter, and I looked in it today, and the fish were swimming around. As long as the current is strong enough than the pond won't even freeze over, If you get a real cold winter, you will get a large ice build up, but don't worry, the fish bury themselves into the substrate and plants and whatnot on the bottom of the pond. and they won't freeze. I have 2 heaters for my pond and I havent even taken them out of the box, it was a waste of money. DO NOT waste your money on things that arent nescessary. The fish will due fine without a heater. Below 3 feet in the ground water won't freeze, so if your pond is deeper than a foot or so, don't worry, it won't freeze all the way through and the goldfish will just hibernate, and when you walk out in the spring, you will see your fish swimming around as if the pond never froze.

I stress one thing, DO NOT spend your money on things that are not nescessary (A heater). The fish don't need it, and you won't look at the pond in the winter cause who wants to go outside in 20 degree weather anyway?
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