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demonseed · Members Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Location: Palmdale, Ca

Okay, sounds good. But can I make a few substitutions? Instead of spinach could I use squash or zucini? That is what I feed my other fish and they seem to like it a lot more then the spinach, plus I am alergic to spinach and don't really care for it myself and for some reason I feel uneasy feeding this to my fish even though it is healthy. And also what is muti-vitamins and where can I get some? Also would this recipe be good for my other fish? It sounds to be really healthy and if it is true that what I am giving them is 80% water, then I don't want to go out and buy that. Also when you say to add the muti vitamin tablets I assume I am to crush it up and mix everything all together and that I should also cut up the shrimp correct?

number6 · Moderators Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada

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number6 · Moderators Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada

Hello Guest...
pH has very little to do with KH and GH directly. (Indirectly yes)
pH is themeasurement of Hydrogen ions in the water column.
The rain water I add has a KH and GH of near 0 but the pH is stabilized by the sand substrate. I grabbed it from the shores of lake Erie for its purple colour. If I did not do any water changes the GH and KH will raise from near 0 to around 4 as calcium and other things leach out of the sand.
With weekly water changes the KH and GH stays between 0 and 1.
The pH must be maintained at exactly 7.6 by some balance of OH ions that leach from the sand.
For a while in a 10g I played with the pH and this sand to see if I could exert any control over it. I could not and now have given up trying.
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demonseed · Members Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Location: Palmdale, Ca

I would like to make the fish food with the recipe provided above, but I would like to know if the multi-vitamins have to be made specifically for fish or if it can be any kind. I'm pretty sure that vitamins are vitamins, but I need to make sure. I don't need my fish dying Wink

My other fish can also eat this food correct? Also I found some nice looking red turqs at www.sereneaquatics.com I am not sure where they are located, but does any one know how much it normally cost to ship about four discus?

Mike

Vitamin tablets are the type that we have, Vit A, b, c, d, e etc etc.

If making a lot of food, use 2 tablets, 1 tablet if not so much.

Since your fish will be eating spinich you don't need to worry.

Spinnich has a very high nutritional value, and I therefore don't know if it can be exchanged for other forms. Spinnich also makes up he bulk of the meaty product to hold it all together.

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demonseed · Members Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Location: Palmdale, Ca

some one mentioned earlier that 7.2 pH is fine as long as I'm not trying to breed them. What if I eventually try to breed them, should I lower the pH. Also I was reading in a site that you should put peat moss in the tank, because it lowers pH and it turns the water "tea brown". Is this really neccesary. Cause I'm not tooo wild about having brown water, In fact I am constantly doing water changes if the water looks anything but crystal clear.

Mike

My discus are trying to breed again, and my pH is between 7.2 and 7.5
KH 1 and GH 3

pH is not really an issue, the only thing is has to help being soft for is to help the fry hatch.

It is very difficult and possibly dangerous to alter pH for specific reasons, cause it is not very stable.

Best way I have found of reducing pH safely is to add CO2.
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