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[bluefish87]

Hello

I Have a flower horn

before 2 days I noticed many small white spots on its entire body..

I thought its normal white spot and I used the anti white spots for 2 days with raising the temp. to 31 C.

Today the entire white spots has been developed. The body of fish has a strange white peel on it.

I don't think that is normal at all

any idea that helps?
and Thank You

the tank size is about 50 Liter
I have it since 3 weeks, using interior filter
and finally I change about 25% of the water every week
before one week I bought an algae eater, and I think it was infected then my flowerhorn got it from the algae eater fish.

[rales12]

How was the tank cycled? If you've only had the tank for 3 weeks, its probably not fully cycled, is my guess. If you didn't cycle the tank, you need to be doing daily 50% or larger water changes to lessen the effects of the ammonia and nitrites.
Read on the nitrogen cycle here.

What other fish are in the tank?

A 50l is far, far too small for a flowerhorn (and probably the algae eater). Once you cure this problem, you need to either upgrade the tank or return the fish.

Any chance at a picture of the white peel you described? Is it the slime coat?

If its ich, then you need to use medication for the full length of time recommended on the bottle. This is usually 7-10 days, I think. Two days isn't going to cure it.

Look here to learn how big the flowerhorn is going to get, and what size of tank he needs.
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[bluefish87]

thanks for replay,
I'm using a filter it cycle the water and it has carbon inside it.

and I'm using Tetra Aqua Safe for the aquarium to get rid of color and other poisons.


I don't have any other fish in my tank. just the algae eater, but I removed it from this tank after I noticed the infection.
and this is some pics.
I don't know how to describe it
sorry for the low Quality

[/img]http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9899/20110201351.jpg[img]

the body side looks so bad

this pic shows the face side, although its not very clear.. but you can see the damage.

[/img]http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3782/20110201352.jpg[img]


this pic foucs better in the face

[/img]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/410/20110201353.jpg[img]


and this the back side of the body
[/img]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3729/20110201354.jpg[img]



I'm very sad ..

hope it become fine soon

what should I do now?

and thank you

[diademhill]

That is a very poorly fish. It may have white spot but the main problem is it is being poisoned by toxic chemicals - it's own wastes.

The medication you added will have been removed by the carbon in the filter but the filter does not "cycle" the water it circulates the water through the media
which, once a tank is "cycled" holds bacteria that break down the fishes wastes into less poisonous forms.

What you can do is start doing daily 50% water changes. Let the new water get to room temperature before you add it and add enough dechlorinator to the new water before putting it in the tank.

Where did you get the fish from? Do you know anyone with a mature tank?

[bluefish87]

thank's for respond.

I'm Sad To hear that ;(

I'm Using dechlorinator as I mentioned before

how about the salt?
is it usefull?


and the fish, I bought it from a friend.

and I know many have mature tanks.
why?


if I keep changing water daily, how many days it need?
and what else can I do?

Thank's again

[diademhill]

Go to a friend and get him to rinse a mature filter pad in some tank water. Bring this to your tank and pour it onto your filter just after a water change.
This will seed your filter with the bacteria it lacks.
If you click the blue "cycling" in my post above it takes you to an explanation of what is happening.

You need to do the water changes until the fish recovers.

Salt can help while the tank is cycling but only small quantities. 5mls per each water change for 5 days.

A flowerhorn really needs at least a 300 litre tank.

[bluefish87]

I don't think any one will give any thing.. ;/

but I will try

I have a filter for the flower aquaruim with carbon but I removed it now to avoid letting carbon absorb the anti white spots.

also I have other aquaruim contain piranha, will the filter pad be helpful?


and I read your post ..
Its little complicated but explained well.. thanks

my flower is too young. it just about 10 to 12 Cm
I want it to become bigger then move it to new tank, thats why I keep it here now

for the salt. the package have instructions, for treatment: use 2 tsp for every 20 liter..

[diademhill]

If your piranha tank has been running for at least three months you can use some of the filter media or water the filter media has been rinsed in to donate bacteria to the flowerhorn tank.
Leave out the white spot medication.
Just add the salt in the amount I said I teaspoon in the new water per day for a few days. Any more could add more stress to the flowerhorn.

It is ill through poor water quality and unless you get the water right the fish won't recover.

[bluefish87]

OK how to do it exactly?

in the piranha I have 2 filters,
should I remove one and just put it in the flowerhorn tank?

or how exactly? (Sorry I'm begeiner)

here what I will do too
I will stop using the ant white spot now,
then move 50% of the tank water
then add 5 Ml salt

thats it

hope I'm true and hope that it help the fish to recover

[diademhill]

Yes you can move a filter over.