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Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: 2010.10.23(Sat)11:04 Post subject: Foam decor prototype. |
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So I'm going to be putting together a 37gal tank soon. It's nearly the size of a big screen TV from the front, so I want it to be striking both from a distance, and up close. I can't seem to find any decor to match my taste though. So... I'll make some..?
What you are about to see is a prototype of the concept for a 5gal tank. I wanted to hit all the obstacles and make sure it works long term before I spend the time making a detailed one for my big tank. This one isn't designed to be beautiful, just to try a few techniques and see how the work so I can make the next one from experience. Judge accordingly. ^_-
First I roughly cut pink insulation foam to the shape I wanted. I glued it together with elmers (it's really the best thing to use). Then I cut in my shape and texture (tried a few different styles). The I coated it in black latex to give me a primer to work up from, shadows in the reccesses, hide seams, and protect the foam from the last step. Then I applied shades of acrylic paint to give it color and depth. Lastly I sealed it with Krylon Clear Coat, hoping to keep the water safe from it, and it safe from the water. Oh yeah, then as a true last step I siliconed the heck out of it and stuck it in the tank!
I have no idea if it will stay down or float. I have no idea if it will toxify the water. I'm going to run it for a few days with charcoal to (hopefully) remove anthing that leaches out, then drop a few feeder guppies in it as test cannaries. Appologies to PETA.
If everyone is alive in a month, I'll start work on the real thing, and post progress of that if there's interest!
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SoS Advisors

Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: 2010.10.23(Sat)13:00 Post subject: |
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The pink foamboard is safe. Krylon spray paint is safe. Not sure about the clear coat. What kind of black latex did you use?
Looks very cool btw  _________________ 150 Gallon (567.811768 liters) community tank, 50 Gallon African Tank, 7 reef tanks, 6 FOLR, 28 freshwater tanks |
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rales12 Regulars

Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Location: Wyoming
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Posted: 2010.10.23(Sat)14:37 Post subject: |
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I like it!
I wish I had the patience to make my own decorations!  _________________ - Rachel |
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KhiaraFish Regulars

Joined: 18 Aug 2010 Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Posted: 2010.10.24(Sun)2:42 Post subject: |
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That looks great, I thought about trying something like that in my 30 gallon, but I didn't. Now I kinda wish I had.  _________________ Please, oh Please can someone help me!?
My fish mugged me and stole my wallet! |
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Posted: 2010.10.26(Tue)13:20 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the kind words!
The latex is just a flat black, I'm not sure what brand or make up. My hope is that after having put on many heavy coats of the spray sealant that it won't matter what I used, because it will never come in contact with the water. An aggressive algae eater could scrape through this coating, I suppose, but I don't intend to house one in the tank.
I'll fill the tank with water tomorrow and start the carbon filtering. I'll post another pic. |
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Posted: 2010.10.27(Wed)3:22 Post subject: |
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Voila!
It's not floating- That's a great start! ^_^ |
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KhiaraFish Regulars

Joined: 18 Aug 2010 Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Posted: 2010.10.27(Wed)6:49 Post subject: |
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It looks great, what are the gravels beds on the decor for? _________________ Please, oh Please can someone help me!?
My fish mugged me and stole my wallet! |
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Posted: 2010.10.29(Fri)11:40 Post subject: |
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Looks Awesome! I will definately be stealing that LOL! _________________ 150 Gallon (567.811768 liters) community tank, 50 Gallon African Tank, 7 reef tanks, 6 FOLR, 28 freshwater tanks |
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Posted: 2010.10.30(Sat)12:22 Post subject: |
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WAIT! Don't steal my idea!
The good news is that the test worked. I found out if this method works without killing any fish!
The bad news is it didn't work. -.-'
I used KRYLON Crystal Clear: Acryylic Satin Clear protective non-yellowing clear finish- And it failed epicly.
Now, I think I had two problems. You should wait for 48 hours before adding water to Silicone. I sealed my peice down with a spread "thin" later of silicone, and realizing there was less surface area for drying, and more than just a bead around the edge of a tank, I doubles that and gave it a little over 4 days. I don't think this was long enough. It came up. But there's more to this story.
After 2 days of sumbersion with a pump (no carbon) water was good. Day 3 revealed a little bit of cloudiness. Day 4 was very cloudy. On the fifth day it arose from the bottom and the tank was found with quite a bit of foam coming out of it. As though I had added a spoonful of dishsoap to the tank.
My first hope was that the silicone had come loose, and the sealent had held- But upon review I found the sealent had worn through in several places.
First off, what caused the foam? Has anyone ever filled a tank before silicone was cured? Does this make the water cloudy, and can it make it foam?
As for the sealent, I am now considering the work "acrylic". This means it's water based. That probably means it's water soluable..? I was hoping "outdoor use" implied it would survive in the rain...
So, fellow fish DIYers, what should I try for my next test as a sealent?
Oh yeah, and the gravel beds were a test. I tried to involve a few different ideas, styles and textures to give me a basis for the next (what I hoped would be the final) model. In the 37gal version, I'm toying with making larger holes down into the foam, and covering it with a gravel bed so I can put live or fake plants in the piece itself. |
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