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Caton

Really? What fish would you recommend? I really like the way I had it... I would like to breed them and plan on getting some shell dwellers for my other tanks.
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diademhill · Advisors Joined: 18 Apr 2007

If you want to breed leave out the synos - they are usually added as fry removers.

The tank is too small for a community - it could hold a breeding group of any of those fish.

Forget the holey rock - get landscaping quartz or marblle or granite or make your own holey rock lookalike from styrofoam for about

Caton

I am not going to use holey rock, just black slate or black roundish rocks that I can find locally with possibly a styrofoam background. I know the synos will eat the fry, but since all the cichlids I want are mouthbrooders I would strip the fry or put her in another tank until she drops. If I get to many at once I can just leave them in the 75g and let the synos have a snack. I have a 30g that is going to be open here soon and a 55g I plan on using, along with a 20g high tank just for breeding, and a few rubbermain tubs that will be used. So I should have space for fry. I really like the idea of using tangs instead. Thanks for bringing that up...now I have to find a new stocking list Rolling Eyes

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katienaha

Caton

Caton

Diademhill; look at this thread I made on cichlid-forum.com, (a moderator on this forum, number6 also moderates that forum)

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=218487&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
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Caton

In case you can't get on there...

diademhill · Advisors Joined: 18 Apr 2007

I can't usually be bothered reading fish crammer's threads - yes you can put that many fish in but how long would they last? Early in the thread you are told some would need removing as they grew or to upgrade to a 125g!
Mbuna would work, I didn't say they wouldn't - just not the combination & numbers you are planning. If you want to groups the larger species you get a larger tank.

Look at the coockie cutter set ups in the first part of the link - none have that many fish unless the fish are smaller in size. About 18-20 yellow lab sized fish or about a dozen of the next size up is still an overstocked tank!

I would still use it for tangs - much more subtle and you have more choice of smaller fish.
I find Malawi tanks reminiscent of fish store stock tanks.

nikelodeon79 · Regulars Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin, U.S.A.

There are two different "camps" of thought on Malawi tanks: overstock and stock thoughtfully.

Overstock and filter the crap outta the tank, and have a very "full" looking tank. Potential issues: ONE single slipup and you could have a major tank die-off. This happened to me... I lost about 20 fish in a single day. What I think happened is that aggression broke out, a couple of fish died fighting, and then the ammonia from those carcasses immediately began to foul the tank, causing a massive die-off.

Stock thoughtfully and there's no need to cram your tank way past capacity. I kept a small colony of Ps. saulosi (a good choice in mbuna if you want to go with a dimorphic breeding group) in a 55g. I wasn't even close to being at "full capacity" and they flourished. A lot less stress in worrying that a single fish dying could crash out the tank!

I used to post over at that forum but I no longer do. There is ONE train of thought and no room for the other. Some people's minds will never be changed. It IS possible to have a successful mbuna tank without overstocking it.
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Caton

What you and nick have said makes sense; again you have never been wrong.

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Caton; 0
Diademhill; 3000

I think your winning.

I will do some research on the fish you suggested.
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