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Caton's high-tech 75g custom rimless tank
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Caton
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)7:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? What fish would you recommend? I really like the way I had it... I would like to breed them and plan on getting some shell dwellers for my other tanks.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)7:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to breed leave out the synos - they are usually added as fry removers.

The tank is too small for a community - it could hold a breeding group of any of those fish.

Forget the holey rock - get landscaping quartz or marblle or granite or make your own holey rock lookalike from styrofoam for about
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)9:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to use holey rock, just black slate or black roundish rocks that I can find locally with possibly a styrofoam background. I know the synos will eat the fry, but since all the cichlids I want are mouthbrooders I would strip the fry or put her in another tank until she drops. If I get to many at once I can just leave them in the 75g and let the synos have a snack. I have a 30g that is going to be open here soon and a 55g I plan on using, along with a 20g high tank just for breeding, and a few rubbermain tubs that will be used. So I should have space for fry. I really like the idea of using tangs instead. Thanks for bringing that up...now I have to find a new stocking list Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)10:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

FishFlake wrote:
unissuh wrote:
I love how goat skulls can get you tanks now...


Is that some kind of Aussie saying? I think the US equivalent might be that you can buy them for peanuts. Wink


No he traded a goat skull for this guy to make him the tank. No "aussie" saying, just the truth!
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)14:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

katienaha wrote:
No he traded a goat skull for this guy to make him the tank. No "aussie" saying, just the truth!


Yep! Quite disgusting might I add, I have worked on it for around 5 hours picking all the meat and disgusting stuff off. It is now dehydrating to get all the stuff I couldn't get off so that way it doesn't smell (the guy won't see the dried stuff, it will be behind the jaw).

I plan on getting some bugs that pick the skull clean here soon so that way I can might $100 per each skull every fall...should bring in $1500 easy money each year...plus we get to eat the meat Cool
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)14:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diademhill; look at this thread I made on cichlid-forum.com, (a moderator on this forum, number6 also moderates that forum)

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=218487&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)15:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you can't get on there...

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Thats what I thought! But the person I heard this from I trust very much so as I have found no fault with her advice in the 1.5 years of talking with her...

I might suggest that you've now got a reason to find fault with her. This time she is full of it.

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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)17:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't usually be bothered reading fish crammer's threads - yes you can put that many fish in but how long would they last? Early in the thread you are told some would need removing as they grew or to upgrade to a 125g!
Mbuna would work, I didn't say they wouldn't - just not the combination & numbers you are planning. If you want to groups the larger species you get a larger tank.

Look at the coockie cutter set ups in the first part of the link - none have that many fish unless the fish are smaller in size. About 18-20 yellow lab sized fish or about a dozen of the next size up is still an overstocked tank!

I would still use it for tangs - much more subtle and you have more choice of smaller fish.
I find Malawi tanks reminiscent of fish store stock tanks.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.11(Mon)23:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two different "camps" of thought on Malawi tanks: overstock and stock thoughtfully.

Overstock and filter the crap outta the tank, and have a very "full" looking tank. Potential issues: ONE single slipup and you could have a major tank die-off. This happened to me... I lost about 20 fish in a single day. What I think happened is that aggression broke out, a couple of fish died fighting, and then the ammonia from those carcasses immediately began to foul the tank, causing a massive die-off.

Stock thoughtfully and there's no need to cram your tank way past capacity. I kept a small colony of Ps. saulosi (a good choice in mbuna if you want to go with a dimorphic breeding group) in a 55g. I wasn't even close to being at "full capacity" and they flourished. A lot less stress in worrying that a single fish dying could crash out the tank!

I used to post over at that forum but I no longer do. There is ONE train of thought and no room for the other. Some people's minds will never be changed. It IS possible to have a successful mbuna tank without overstocking it.
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Caton
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PostPosted: 2010.10.12(Tue)1:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you and nick have said makes sense; again you have never been wrong.

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Caton; 0
Diademhill; 3000


I think your winning.

I will do some research on the fish you suggested.
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