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badisbadis101
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PostPosted: 2008.04.17(Thu)14:33    Post subject: Wild Caught Native Fish Reply with quote

Okay, I have found a healthy population of beautiful sunfish that I would like to add to my backyard pond. I do not, however, want to introduce any diseases, and of course I want them to survive. Assuming I could obtain them legally, etc, what is the best procedure to adjust newly caught wild fish to captivity, as well as to insure that diseases are not brought with them?
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UncleWillie
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PostPosted: 2008.04.17(Thu)17:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of species do you have? In many states, the keeping of sunfish (or any gamefish for that matter) is illegal. However, I won't tell anyone, I want to have a sunfish tank one day, too Wink . There is no sure way to make sure no pathogens enter you system. Do you already have fish in your pond? You can acclimate them just as you would a fish to your aquarium. A good salt bath could always be a plus before introducing them. If you have a disease like black spot, it will not hurt your fish. It only has black spots, but does not affect health or behavior.
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PostPosted: 2008.04.17(Thu)17:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had a large enough aquarium or a large trough of some kind that was fish safe I would fill this with the water where you will catch your fish and add the fish to this. you willl need a filter in the tank. Okay once the fish have adjusted to this life in a tank start changing the water in small amounts with water the same as in yoiur pond. If you do this gradually the fish should grow acustom to the conditions. The other benifit of doing this is that you will be able to watch the fish for any signs of disease that occur and is just like quarantining new fish.

Now the harder part might be adjusting the fish to a diet of flake or other food. while the fish are in the large tank Try to feed them the food that they wuold normally eat. You could go to where you collected the fish and use a fine mesh net and scoop it through the reads. you should find small insects and little shrimp which your fish will eat. once they are eating these try and feed them some frozen foods while adding the live foods to the aquarium. now once they
accept frozen foods offer some dried foods when you feed the frozen food and see if they will eat this.
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Butch
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PostPosted: 2008.04.20(Sun)15:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure check out the Texas laws for keeping the gamefish in pond before fishing the sunfish out. But there are commerical vendors that sell sunfish that you can obtain them legally. Just check out NANFA (North American Native Fishes Assocation) forum.
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PostPosted: 2008.05.11(Sun)17:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've kept bluegills and sunfish I have caught locally here at the lakes and creeks here in San Diego and kept them in an outdoor pond with koi and also with some cichlids in my indoor tanks.
They all get alone fine and are very smart!
Will even eat live food from you hand, not bad for a wild fish that is tamed Smile
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PostPosted: 2008.05.15(Thu)1:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats an interesting idea, I've been thinking of wild caught things too. Does anyone know if you can take wild aquatic plants from new jersey to another state, I need to check out the laws, fish too, because theres this fantastic lake that I'd like to keep fish and plants from, very interesting fish there, but of course I want no legal trouble...
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UncleWillie
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PostPosted: 2008.05.15(Thu)10:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each state - and many times, each county - will have their own rules/regulations/laws on taking animals from the wild. Most require collecting permits, unless you are a fishing liscence holder and are keeping baitfish. Do not take this as any legal information - I highly recommend finding NJ laws or contacting your region's DNR, game and fish, whatever.

In most cases, taking of plants from a pond or lake is actually a good thing. Some plants become overgrown and become a nuisance. Also, the collection of inverts is usually permited (for feeding you fish etc.), but many crayfish are endangered or protected, so look into that more. You will find keeping natives is very fun and it is nice to learn more about and show your friends what kind of fish live in your area.

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Does anyone know if you can take wild aquatic plants from new jersey to another state,

This is usually not legal. There are so many parasites, crustaceans, etc that hitch-hike their way into other bodies of water (zebra mussel, lampreys, snails, etc) That's why when you pull your boat out of the water, you most drain the bilge and any other water befor leaving the boat ramp. This is not a good idea. I suggest finding something in-state. Also, in most cases, transportation across state lines with any animal or part there-of is a federal violation.

Like I said, I strongly suggest looking up the NJ laws and find out what you keep, what you can't and methods of capture.
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PostPosted: 2008.05.16(Fri)15:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'll just keep those locally over there, while I still have a place to live there, once I don't I can always just re release the fish into the lake.

In any case I'm definately looking up those laws, I'm wondering if all the states I would fly over would apply their laws too though...

I don't think they will as long as I don't make any stops...
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PostPosted: 2008.05.18(Sun)0:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barchef wrote:
once I don't I can always just re release the fish into the lake.


Woah, hold on a minute there.

You should never release any fish into the local water ways, never, never, never! Even if they are natively from that particular part and that particular pond/lake/stream/whatever, when they are kept in captivity they are introduced to many more diseases and parasites that when re-released to the water they can introduce and wipe out populations.

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The stocking of any fish into waters of the state is prohibited. Waters of the state pretty much mean any water other than a plastic pond/tub or aquarium. This because nearly all waters are connected through groundwater. Therefor, no waters are privately owned. This includes releasing of any fish (native, or even originally from that body of water) is illegal.

http://www.aquahobby.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=51385&start=10
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PostPosted: 2008.05.18(Sun)1:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if its so close I can do water changes with the water from that particular lake?

(running water lake)
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