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schaadrak
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PostPosted: 2007.03.21(Wed)10:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a few questions about his set-up:

1) If he doesn't feed the fish, what are they eating? Algae?

2) Does he do any water changes or siphon up the fish poo off of the bottom?

3) How fast do those ferns grow? Does he have to prune them regularly?

4) How long has this set-up been running?

Not trying to bust your chops, I just need more information so I can understand what's going on.
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fuzzimuzzi
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PostPosted: 2007.03.23(Fri)9:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. He doesn't know what they are eating. But he does suspect that there are organisms living around the roots of the ferns.

2. Nope. He just adds water when the water level drops too low.

3. He's not sure. Doesn't prune them at all.

4. one and a half year plus.

Cool huh?
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PostPosted: 2007.03.24(Sat)8:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id use some livebearers, snails and java moss. The java moss will feed the snails, and clean the water, the live bearers will feed the java moss, and the snails will clean up. I know it would involve a lot of tinkering and geuss work, it might possible tank months, but it might work.
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PostPosted: 2007.03.24(Sat)11:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read this, great idea and I think I solved the food problem. Just last year I received some sea monkeys for my birthday and also though of the idea of a set-up like this at the time but I forgot Laughing but on the other hand sea monkeys are the freshwater equivalent of brine shrimp, in fact they are a type of brine shrimp crossed with something (I think it was fairy shrimp) to live in freshwater and teach lil' kids responsibility in keeping pets (I think that
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fuzzimuzzi
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PostPosted: 2007.03.26(Mon)5:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya...but it's still salt water. Check it out here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_monkeys

it says:
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Basically, one adds the 'water purifier' package on day one. The user is typically unaware that this package already contains eggs in addition to the salt. At day two, one adds the 'instant life eggs' package, containing Epsom salts, borax and soda, in addition to eggs, yeast, and a blue dye. The blue dye is used to enhance the 'instant life' experience by making the freshly hatched animals more visible. The Sea-Monkeys seen during the second day after adding the 'eggs package' are derived from the eggs added with the 'purifier' package. The food package is a mixture of Spirulina and dried yeast. The 'boost' packages mainly contain salts, which induce sexual activity in artemia. -wikipedia.org
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PostPosted: 2007.03.26(Mon)6:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well ime I was able to accustom them to freshwater unknowingly by water changes every three days. I'm not saying that statement isn't true by all means it is but they can be accustomed to fresh water.

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PostPosted: 2007.03.27(Tue)2:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

really? could you describe what you did? All the way from hatching to getting it accustomed to freshwater? Did it survive to breed?
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PostPosted: 2007.03.27(Tue)10:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good link to Fairy Shrimp (aka freshwater brineshrimp) information.

http://www.feedware.com/aqua/magazine/v2i1/fairyshrimp.pdf
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PostPosted: 2007.03.29(Thu)1:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK sure. all I did was after a week or two topped up on freashwater then I changed 20% of the water every 3 days without relizing they were in salt water. I got a breeding pair left and then in a teribal acident wich spilled the tub and killed all surviors.(R.I.P rosie and bills)btw I had no idea who was who
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PostPosted: 2007.10.25(Thu)11:24    Post subject: Bump Reply with quote

I know this is an older post... but... you could go with dwarf puffers and snails....

something like a 20 gallon long tank, heavily planted, get a population of 100+ pond snails, then introduce 1 dwarf puffer.

if you wanted to use fairy shrimp or worms in addition to snails, the puffer would eat them as well...

but why would you want a big tank with one puffer? I guess if you like plants more than fish this would work fine.
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