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Osprey
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)20:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, you're sure it's baking soda you're using, and not baking powder, right?
What kind of reading are you getting for pH?
Have you allowed the baking soda and pH buffer time to mix in?
Also, test your pH kit. Maybe it's gone bad.
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)20:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep its baking soda.
The pH of my tank is between 8.2 and 8.4 and I got like 7.8 - 8.
Its been approx 1 hour that I mixed the water.
I'm pretty sure the test kit is good, I just bought it like 1 week ago.
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)21:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK...chemistry 101 time here. Smile That much baking soda would have reacted with the calcium and magnesium and precipitated out. leaving a white caking on the container and residue in the bottom. Baking soda will not raise pH in saltwater...it will raise the carbonate hardness and alkalinity and then that in turn will precipitate out if it is out of balance with the calcium and magnesium. If this is makeup water for a water change do not even bother testing it for at least 12 hours of mixing. There is usually no need to worry with pH as commercial salt mixes will already have the proper buffers in them. What you have in that bucket now is highly alkaline water with little to no calcium and magnesium.

Basically you need to dump that, clean the residue off the container and start over...this time do not adjust the water unless you are experienced with water chemistry and are trying to keep sps corals and matching the tank conditions. Leave the saltmix alone, it will be close enough.
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)21:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little good reading here...note washing soda is much better at raising pH than baking soda.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/june2002/chem.htm


I also would not worry with the pH, unless it has fallen below 7.8 it isn't a worry.
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)22:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way...welcome to the chemistry side of saltwater. Smile We all have made mistakes and we will all continue to make them.
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)22:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Washing soda? NaOH?
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PostPosted: 2007.02.27(Tue)23:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

"For home brews, washing soda (sodium carbonate) would be better than baking soda (sodium bicarbonate)."


Baking soda is great for adding alkalinity but not so good for raising pH. Add too much baking soda and you have a very messed up balance.
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PostPosted: 2007.02.28(Wed)0:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atlantis;
Caution is in order here; please take time to research/understand the potential for pH shock associated with rapid shifts and the dangerous impact it can have on your livestock:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marphalk.htm
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PostPosted: 2007.02.28(Wed)6:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know that floridaboy, thats why I was trying to get the really same pH Wink , But I should learn more about the pH and chemistry.

Btw tx sirreal, u should be a chemistry teacher!! Razz R u ? Lol
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PostPosted: 2007.02.28(Wed)6:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atlantis wrote:

Btw tx sirreal, u should be a chemistry teacher!! Razz R u ? Lol


Not even...3 years ago I had to start learning this stuff when my fascination with corals began.
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