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Flame Angel
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PostPosted: 2007.01.12(Fri)15:26    Post subject: Flame angel dead Reply with quote

I woke up this morning and I found my Flame Angel dead Exclamation
I don't know what happened.

It was perfectly fine yesterday, swimming around, eating, grazing on the algae, ect ect.

My avatar is of him/her. That was taken the day before he/she died. So, (if the pics clear enough) you can see for yourself that it was healthy.

The only thing that I can think of, is yesterday I bought an iodine supplement for my coral and put the first dosege in, would this have done it? It is a 'red sea' supplement by the way.

The other fish (1 dusky wrasse, and 2 ocellaris clownfish) seem fine.
The corals are mostly softies.

I will have some test results up shortly.

Thankyou.
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FloridaBoy
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PostPosted: 2007.01.12(Fri)15:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who knows, try updating your profile. Tank size, history, filtration.
Here's what I see:

"1 reef aquarium 1 freshwater community aquarium 1 wild guppy tank 1 breeding tank 1 hospital tank 1 spider tank"
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PostPosted: 2007.01.13(Sat)2:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some one said it could have been a lack of oxygen that killed it.
Basically they were saying that at night the algae takes in oxygen as it respires, and it was an extremly hot day yesterday and the water temperture increased, which decreases the amount of oxygen in the water. Does this sound right? Could this have killed him? (or her) They recommened getting more circulation. What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: 2007.01.13(Sat)9:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

We really don't have enough information to help much.

Give us a quick rundown on all of the equipment. Low oxygen is possible but not a usual suspect. How long have you had the fish?
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Flame Angel
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PostPosted: 2007.01.13(Sat)17:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equipment, OK:
Filtration:
'Atman 881' internal filter.
Took the airstones out of the UGF and replaced them with 1 limewood diffuser for the DIY protein skimmer, but the skimmer wasn't doing much and after the thoughts of low oxygen, I put the airstones back in the UGF. (So one UGF)
The airstones are powered by a 'Precision SR-9500'

lighting:
3 flourescent tubes. At time of death there was 1 'hagen marine glo' and 2 blue actinics.

I had the Flame for 6 months.
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PostPosted: 2007.01.13(Sat)18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still don't know the size of your tank... any water test results?
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PostPosted: 2007.01.13(Sat)20:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tank is 75 x 35 x 45 cm.
Ammonia-0
Nitrites-0
Nitrates-around 2 or 3ppm
pH-8.2
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PostPosted: 2007.01.13(Sat)23:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that would be roughly 30 gallons or so...
Hard to say what happened, fish die sometimes for no apparent reason, your water looks okay.

I do feel a 30 gallon is too small for this fast-moving fish, IMO 40 or even 75 gal would be more appropriate as the minimum for Flames as they will reach 4 inches or more.

Your UGF needs more movement; suggest powerheads vs. the old fashioned airstones for vigorous water movement. You stated you had removed all circulation to the UGF, (?) which could have created a stagnant substrate (not sure how long it was like this) at any rate get some powerheads and add some vigorous gas exchange via a wet dry or a large sump refugium with live rock and/or a serious skimmer. If you desire healthy Angelfish, please consider a larger tank, they are sensitive as a group and often succumb to environmental stress before other fish will ever show problems.
Additional opinion for you here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/centropyge/loricula.htm
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