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marto
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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)0:19    Post subject: Mexican Walking fish article sugestion Reply with quote

I Have a sugestion for the gallery. The fish is called axolotl, some people call them Mexican Walking fish. They are like mudskippers. Do a search though google about them and you will find some interesting articles
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nonamethefish
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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)0:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this creature isn't a fish...but an amphibian. Doesn't remind me of a mudskipper in anyway though. IMHO its a little too far out off the scope of this site-quite a few amphibian specific sites out their already.

Input anyone else?
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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)1:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can't live on land otherwise it will die so I don't thinkl it counts as an amphibian.
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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)5:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh are we forgetting the african clawed frogs. maybe a small micilanious aqua creater area. I mean we have an area for inverts. my 2 cents

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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)8:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marto,

I think your mixing up the defintion of a fish and of an aquatic creature. There are MANY scores of creatures that are fish that require water to live in.

Fresh water shrimp, daphinia, misquito larva. How about the in the ocean? Dolphins and sharks aren't fish. Corals, shrimps and any hundreds of thousands of inverts. Whales are mammals, like us. We are definatly not fish.

If you look in the gallery submission section here, you will see what format we are looking for to add on. Give that try. Just because it's not a fish doesn't mean we wouldn't want it.
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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)11:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

marto wrote:
It can't live on land otherwise it will die so I don't thinkl it counts as an amphibian.


An axolotl is an overgrown salamander larva and is aquatic like most salamander larvae. It's unusual in that it can reproduce while still in it's larval stage, something that helps it survive in it's natural habitat. They can be induced into metamorphosis after which they'll look like this and live on land. The adult form is usually called a mexican salamander.

Hard to say what non-fish should be included on this site. A lot of the inverts already covered do useful fishkeeping jobs so it makes sense to include them. I'd say there's a fairly good argument to include axolotls as they're often sold in fish shops, if only so that people don't confuse them for fish.
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PostPosted: 2005.01.10(Mon)22:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe so. Unlike the inverts listed they don't make very good additions to our normal fish aquariums as they are likely to be harassed or otherwise simply eat fish. They also need things cold. Perhaps an article dealing with those "other" things that occasionally pop up in the fish section.

Its also possible it could have been a larval tiger salamander. Often used as bait, the larvae are sold to aquarists as "waterdogs".
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PostPosted: 2005.01.11(Tue)19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psssst Irons, sharks ARE fish LOL
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PostPosted: 2005.01.11(Tue)23:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Huntress, there are some schools of thought that don't consider sharks, rays, skates, and chimaeras as "fish" any more than they would consider hagfish (class Agnatha) or lampreys fish. Wink The term "fish," much like cat or dog, is kinda relative!
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PostPosted: 2005.01.12(Wed)10:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huntress,

You prove me wrong again! =)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharks

"Sharks are a group (superorder Selachimorpha) of fish, with a full cartilaginous skeleton, a streamlined body plan with between 5 and 7 gill slits along the sides (most often) or side of the head (the first modified slit is behind the eye and called a spiracle), dermal denticles covering the body to protect from parasites, and rows of replaceable teeth in the mouth."

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Chondrichthyes
Subclass: Elasmobranchii
Superorder: Selachimorpha


http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=fish&x=10&y=14

"b : any of numerous cold-blooded strictly aquatic craniate vertebrates that include the bony fishes and usually the cartilaginous and jawless fishes and that have typically an elongated somewhat spindle-shaped body terminating in a broad caudal fin, limbs in the form of fins when present at all, and a 2-chambered heart by which blood is sent through thoracic gills to be oxygenated"


"A fish is a poikilothermic (cold-blooded) * water-dwelling vertebrate with gills. There are over 27,000 species of fish, making them the most diverse group of vertebrates. Taxonomically, fish are a paraphyletic group whose exact relationships are much debated; a common division is into the jawless fishes (class Agnatha, 75 species including lampreys and hagfish), the cartilaginous fishes (class Chondrichthyes, 800 species including sharks and rays), with the remainder classed as bony fishes (class Osteichthyes)."
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