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Maybe we should just leave the fish in the wild
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snakemao62
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)8:44    Post subject: Maybe we should just leave the fish in the wild Reply with quote

Maybe we should just leave the fish in the wild.Think about it.....where is the best place for them.How many are killed every year in captivity in one way or another.

Just a thought and yes I still have my tank.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)8:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most populations in the wild are dying faster than in captivity. Tiger barbs for example die in the thousands if not hundreds of thousands each year, yet they are pretty much extinct in the wild. Do you have oto's in your aquarium? Those are most likely wild, do you have neon tetras? Lots of those are wild...
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)9:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes, this topic comes up every so often.

My usual response is a well looked after fish will likely survive longer in captivity than in the wild - true for many pets not just fish. If your average LFS and fish owner knew more, this topic would probably come up a lot less.

I'm also not aware that tiger barbs are endangered in the wild at all, where'd you hear that from? AFAIK wild populations are actually spreading through the actions of silly people releasing them into new areas.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)9:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point a lot of species have also been domesticated, and would not do well if put back into the wild, because of a loss of immunity to disease, or because their coloration makes them too visible to predators.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)10:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like previously said, many of the fish you find in stores have been domesticated for decades. Many of the fish (of course there are exceptions) are captive bred and fish taken from the wild are needed every so often to either supplement LFS stocks or to increase broodstock for the breeding programs.

Many fish would be extinct in the wild if it was for aquaria - barrens topminnow, endlers livebearers, and some have had to have wild captured fish for broodstock so that fish can be raised in tanks or aquaculture and then used to supplement wild populations. You can find quite a bit of interesting material on the subject if you know where to look.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)14:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set the neighbor's Yorkshire Terrier free with the wolf pack and see how it does...
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PostPosted: 2010.10.14(Thu)15:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

unissuh wrote:
I'm also not aware that tiger barbs are endangered in the wild at all, where'd you hear that from? AFAIK wild populations are actually spreading through the actions of silly people releasing them into new areas.


In their natural habitat is where they are going extinct. I read it somewhere a couple of times... There are plenty of endlers in some ponds that have no preditors (bass, trout, etc) but in the wild they are hardly any despite the fact they breed so quickly. Collection of wild things is not bad in moderation, but people do need to know that most fish live longer than 5 years and not 6 months like most people think (goldfish is one fish that is thought to only live 6 months but they can live to be 30 years old!)
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PostPosted: 2010.10.16(Sat)10:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look up lake Victoria in Africa, many species that have gone extinct in the lake still live on in captivity.
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PostPosted: 2010.10.18(Mon)14:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, red-tailed black shark is extinct in the wild. The ancestral home of Endler's LB is now a garbage dump. People behind bulldozers seldom keep fishes. It's the aquarists who are running ahead of bulldozers to save as much as we can. And it's the money that can be generated from this trade which keeps it going.

If we were to keep fishes in the wild, we have to make bulldozers extinct first. Then I don't mind flying 20 hours and spending one or two thousand dollars to see angelfish or discus in their natural habitat, or giving up the ordeal and knowing by heart that these natural treasures are living happily. Wink
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