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waway
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PostPosted: 2007.03.04(Sun)4:58    Post subject: sump question Reply with quote

guys, is it OK if the sump is placed above the tan? what filter media is best used for the sump? thanks to all.
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SLACkra
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PostPosted: 2007.03.04(Sun)18:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

not enough information to give you a good answer. what is the main tanks dimentions? what do you keep? what do you intend on keeping?

it is possible to have an above tank sump.

andrew
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Pete Harcoff
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PostPosted: 2007.03.04(Sun)18:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible, but it's not really a "sump" by the strict definition of the word. The one caveat is that the main tank must be able to handle the excess overflow from the sump if the pump is shut off.
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PostPosted: 2007.03.04(Sun)19:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

SLACkra wrote:
not enough information to give you a good answer. what is the main tanks dimentions? what do you keep? what do you intend on keeping?

it is possible to have an above tank sump.

andrew

I'm was planning of a FOWLR setup with 5-10 small sized fishes.

tank is 36inx18inx20in. sump is a 15G tank.
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PostPosted: 2007.03.04(Sun)19:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete Harcoff wrote:
It's possible, but it's not really a "sump" by the strict definition of the word. The one caveat is that the main tank must be able to handle the excess overflow from the sump if the pump is shut off.

is a sump just considered a filter box? so I can use an oversized filter box then? Question
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Pete Harcoff
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PostPosted: 2007.03.04(Sun)21:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

waway wrote:
is a sump just considered a filter box? so I can use an oversized filter box then? Question


A sump in the traditional definition is something that collects water below its source. Hence, a traditional sump goes under a tank and it fed via an overflow from the main tank. It's purpose is to increase water volume, store equipment out of the main tank, facilitate water changes, and potentially act as a refugium.

Generally sumps aren't used as filters per-say, unless you have some live rock or macroalgae, or perhaps a carbon reactor.

What exactly are you trying to achieve? Are you trying to increase water volume? Add filtration? Etc...?
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PostPosted: 2007.03.05(Mon)2:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the sump is used to filter debris or waste from the main. I still have a lot to learn about marine setup Embarassed

what is really the purpose of a sump? what are the things that are put inside its tank?
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PostPosted: 2007.03.05(Mon)9:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

waway wrote:
what is really the purpose of a sump?


As I said, the two big reasons are to increase total system water volume and to house equipment. Increasing system water volume leads to a more stable system.

They can also be used to house a refugium, and make water changes easier.

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what are the things that are put inside its tank?


Typically skimmers, heaters, thermometers, and reactors (calcium, phosban, etc). Pretty much anything besides powerheads.
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PostPosted: 2007.03.05(Mon)17:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

waway wrote:
I thought the sump is used to filter debris or waste from the main. I still have a lot to learn about marine setup Embarassed

what is really the purpose of a sump? what are the things that are put inside its tank?


Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...
http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html
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PostPosted: 2007.03.06(Tue)19:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...
http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html[/quote]

very informative and very complex but all in all its very nice. hope I could make one of those Very Happy
thanks for the link.
@ pete - thank you very much for your inputs. hope you don't mind some of my naive questions Embarassed
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