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Garlic neutralising nitrate readings?
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Jimbob
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PostPosted: 2006.09.04(Mon)13:36    Post subject: Garlic neutralising nitrate readings? Reply with quote

I am using Kent Garlic Extreme drops to combat an outbreak of ich in my marine tank. I noticed that the nitrate readings had dropped from 10ppm to 5ppm over the course of three days and wondered if the garlic (or preservatives in the bottle) were having an impact on the readings. I did a cross check against a reading from one of my freshwater tanks and sure enough the tank sample tested 20ppm and the sample of water mixed with garlic came out as zero.

I am using a Red Sea nitrate test kit, has anyone heard of this before?
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PostPosted: 2006.09.05(Tue)7:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a new one to me but understandable.
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PostPosted: 2006.09.05(Tue)10:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but understandable
Is anyone able to expand on this? I have no grasp of the chemistry involved? Smile
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PostPosted: 2006.09.05(Tue)11:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not a chemist but it is feasable that the garlic is binding to the nitrates making the test inaccurate. The nitrates are still there just masked.
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PostPosted: 2006.09.08(Fri)20:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't drink the marketing cool-Aid!
Garlic will not kill marine cryptocaryon.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php
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PostPosted: 2006.09.08(Fri)21:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

mm maybe the nitrates have just dropped. acording to my chem teacher(doing year 11 chem atm) there isn't really much that will bind with Nitrate to form a solid participate. the NO3- will just stay in solution, its a fairly unreactive ion.

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PostPosted: 2006.09.09(Sat)3:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

FB, I won't be drinking the garlic (just a little on my weekend burger maybe Wink )

I know the garlic won't kill the problem, I was working on the theory that it will help build up resitance to the cysts attaching. I am also building up the natural immune system by feeding with the New Era flake food eight week system).

Andy, thanks for running this past an academic, I tested again today and the nitrate was about 2.5ppm so I am getting some readings. I will keep this thread posted with the results after I stop adding the garlic.
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PostPosted: 2006.09.10(Sun)14:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbob wrote:
FB, I won't be drinking the garlic (just a little on my weekend burger maybe Wink )
I know the garlic won't kill the problem, I was working on the theory that it will help build up resitance to the cysts attaching. I am also building up the natural immune system by feeding with the New Era flake food eight week system).


Uhh, no. I wasn't suggesting you would drink the garlic... "drinking the cool-aid" is a term used to describe those who swallow a non-truth believing it will bring them a solution, only to result in tragedy; as in the Jim Jones scenario. Sadly, I have seen a lot of quality marine life die from cryptocaryon parasitic infestations while hobbyists conducted "experiments" based on theories with garlic. I have researched/do understand the theory, but it has proven to have a weak track record in the industry... I did post another opinion on the subject. Anyway, good luck with it!
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PostPosted: 2006.09.11(Mon)10:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Uhh, no. I wasn't suggesting you would drink the garlic...


Doh! Both speaking English and divided by a common language! Embarassed

I have read your others articles incidently and gained a lot from them. Thanks for your supporting comments.
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PostPosted: 2006.09.12(Tue)16:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbob wrote:
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Uhh, no. I wasn't suggesting you would drink the garlic...


Doh! Both speaking English and divided by a common language! Embarassed

I have read your others articles incidently and gained a lot from them. Thanks for your supporting comments.


You're welcome my friend, best wishes for your success...
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